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Kaguta Museveni
from Rwakitura wrote on 24.Dezember 2003 um 16:52 Uhr:
http://www.obotekokundeka.comIP Adresse: 205.194.127.36 (62.67.214.55)
Mr. Ayoo,
I am not a dictator, I just got rid of
Dictators:- Tito Okello, Milton Obote and Idi Amin.

So please, do spread false allegations
against me.

I am just too young to leave
power and I am very intelligent
too. If you are more intelligent
than me then why don\'t you come
to be President?

But you are coward hiding
among colonialists.

I fought colonialists, now
I am eating the money of neocolonialists
like Bush and Blair. These
people, they enjoy feeding me
they do not want me to leave power.


Now Bush is going to give me
so contracts to Reconstruct
Iraq, I am going to sell those
Arabs Obusheera, Ammatte,
Amazhita. They can give me
they Arab women, I can give
them one of my daughters.

Ayoo, you have no daughter to
give any one, even your less
than handsome master Obote, is
suffering without a woman.

Ayoo, why don\'t you live Kyeyo and
you come appoint you as my
security guard?

You will have the chance to tour
your motherland Akokoro in
my helicopter.

Anzeige / Angebote
wrote on 08.September 2010:

Agaba
from Uganda wrote on 24.Dezember 2003 um 15:02 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
Happy Xmas season to all direct and indirect contributors to this forum including Dr. A.M Obote, Josefu Kony , Vicent Otti and Godfrey Ayoo. My plea on this festive Xmas day is to call on the creator of the universe and its inhabitants to dwell on all those people who have been giving support/morale boosting to the killers and the killers themselves( since they are said to be good catholics )(Kony and his gang of rebels) to see light and thumb their chests and end sheding blood in Northern Uganda and Sudan. I hope my call is loud and clear. After the season I expect the critical thinkers on this forum to base their analysis on facts rather than gossip and their imagination. I look forward to having a settled and Stable Uganda in 2004 with some of you intellectuals out there dumping your egoes and returning home with the purpose of rebuilding your motherland Uganda rather than tearing it basing yourselves on false beliefs of invicibility.

Antony
from United Kingdom wrote on 23.Dezember 2003 um 23:10 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 172.169.246.114 (62.67.214.55)
Yes its Christmas yet again. Another year has almost drawn to a close. Our thoughts and prayers should be with the long-suffering people of northern and eastern Uganda. If there is one wish these people want most is simply peace and to lead a normal life! Nothing more and nothing less. And we pray that their wish is granted sooner rather than later.

As we celebrate the birthday of Christ, humanity should also take a moment to a moment to reflect on the man Jesus and his teaching. A lot of mankinds problems would be avoided if only we could take from his wisdom.

And finally to everyone out there, I wish merry x-mass.

Director-RRIA
from Cologne - Germany wrote on 23.Dezember 2003 um 15:28 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.173.128.238 (62.67.214.55)
Be hereby notified that Dr. A. Milton Obote will deliver a Xmas & New Year Message on RRIA of 24th & 25th. Dec. 2003

Vahid Oloro
from Kenya wrote on 23.Dezember 2003 um 15:24 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 62.8.64.24,192.168.0.16 (62.67.214.55)
Christmas is here again as it has always been for hundreds of years past. For many Ugandans it is a time for celebration and merry making.

But even as we indulge in festivities, this Christmas must also become a time to pause and reflect. To pause and reflect on what a true Uganda ought to be.

We enter into the festive season with hundreds of thousands of out fellow citizens living in a man-made hell. Many are in squalid conditions in hellish camps. Some writhe in pain in hospitals (if they are lucky to be in hospitals at all) due to injuries inflicted upon them by a war they don’t understand its purpose. Some are in jails (some ungazetted) just because they hold a different view. Others are mourning the loss of loved ones after gun-totting persons felt they have a right to take away a life bestowed by the Almighty.

Our nation is bleeding, and as it bleeds, this Christmas must become a period in which we must all pose a question: Is it worth it?

Let this season not just be a time to celebrate, let it be a time we tell all those who choose to live by the gun, in whatever form they may be, that we Ugandans are a peaceful people and cherish to live in harmony with each other. Let Museveni and Kony, if they are such ardent believers in carnage and force, face each other in a ring and square their differences there. The children of Uganda mourn for the carnage that the lust for power that these two ardently cling to is causing the nation.

Enough is enough.

Michael
from United Kingdom wrote on 23.Dezember 2003 um 13:08 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 213.78.9.220 (62.67.214.55)
HAPPY XMAS TO ALL UGANDANS EVERYWHERE, and the rest of humanity too. And a prosperous & peaceful 2004.

Moses Ebu
from Soroti, Uganda wrote on 23.Dezember 2003 um 10:58 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
To all Members of the RRIA Guest Forum:

Merry X-mas and Happy and properous 2004 for you All!

My new year wish is for the total pacification of Northern Uganda with the elimination of Joseph Kony and Company. I am just praying that his happens latest June 2004 so that the suffering people can go back to their homes and resume productive lives.

Special regards to Ayo, Antony, Assimwe, Vahid, Yoga (the late?) and last but not least Edward Mulindwa!!

Amen!!

Yours,

Moses Ebu

Gwanga
from U wrote on 22.Dezember 2003 um 19:29 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 202.175.95.47,202.175.52.142 (62.67.214.55)
Ayoo, I cant imagine that despite the raining of the bullets and stench of death in Lango, these Langi\'s of yours are out enjoying ebimansulo clubs. As you mentioned that you are not renewing your contractor (as if the world cares!) you are well come to enjoy the new beat of DingiDingi kimansulo style. Without a doubt, Kimansulo takes its roots in DingiDingi. What an immoral way of dancing I have seen tonight. I keep asking the bimansulo girls whether, there are any relatives of yours, but you seem to be as foreign as a Black Nazi in Germany but more related to Mr. Konyi. What am I talking about? I SEEM TO HAVE BREATHED in TOO MUCH GUN POWDER! Don’t get upset. This is just to bring some laughter into your recreation centre, buddy. I just missed you hauler!

Agaba
from Uganda wrote on 22.Dezember 2003 um 14:32 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
Gudoi,

I heAR you describing yourself as a government in waiting(Reform Agenda).I have a feeling that the two gentlemen(Moses and Ogaba) know you very. May be what they did not know was that you were involved in recruitment of rebels some of whom joined Kony( LRA ) in Sudan recently.

GUDOI MASABA JAWAL
from uganda wrote on 22.Dezember 2003 um 13:33 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 64.152.195.37,64.152.195.196 (62.67.214.55)
Moses and ogaba,Make thourough research about certain things before you go public.
Its true that i come from mbale but decieving people that i was a militia during those days
of Obote is a total misnomer.
First and far most am 30years old now.m7 has now ruled uganda now for 17 years.Which means at his arrival i was only 13yaers of age.
When did i join the militias?in 1980 i was only and only 7years.

Please movement psychophants stop your simplistic approach to political and national issues.This is not the arena for denting images of people.If you dont have facts keep quiet.

Then Ogaba told me that We have never experienced war in mbale.Who tells you that?who does not know about Ekurete, Jesus,musa Echweru now an RDC ,Charlse ,werikhe that they used to terrorise
people in kachumabala a neighbouring county to mbale ,nakaloke,Bufumbo,Buyobo ,Kolonyi, namabasa and manyn other places in mbale ?
Futher more revist your information manuals and site out some areas that fell under Luwero triangle.Among the list Mbale is at the fore front.Does it mean even your warlord [M7] decieved the entire world?

Members ,the likes of Ogaba and Moses Ebu are really derailing Uganda and we need to rise up against these opportunists.
Am on record that am not pro-war in changing governments.
I would like to tell the entire world that army mentality in the entire world has caused Social,emortional,cultural,political un rests to
innocent civilians.As a member of civilian class i totaly disassociate with war mongers like the M7 goernment.
It is on this fact that i called for a civil uprising.Civil up risings have never been led by uniformed men and women.
Mahatma Ghandhi was not an army man but he redeemed in from the queens goernment.
We are also ready to do the same and we force out the beest from our mother land.

Moses Ebu
from Soroti, Uganda wrote on 21.Dezember 2003 um 13:39 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
From his name Gudoi Masaba obviously hails from Mbale of Bugisu for that matter. What I know about Bugisu is that it has never suffered from violence to the level Teso, Acholi, Buganda, West Nile have over the years. It is therefore not surprising that while everybody else is talking about ending rebellions and war in Uganda, he is thinking of joing the LRA in the name of northerns. Masaba why do you not start the uprising in Mbale and we see how it will advance democracy in Uganda. The northerners want peace and peace messagers and not war mongers like yourself. Your accuse others of just lamenting when you are doing the same. If indeed you are a Mbale man why do you not start something in Wanale Mnts? Alternatively why not end the lementations and go to Pader and join LRA?

At the end of the present war in Acholi, Uganda will be a very united country. The Acholi who believe that they are a marshal tribe in Uganda will have woken up to reality and accept that any other tribe can provide a president for Uganda. It is because of this that I detest very strongly any talks with the rebelling Acholi - call them LRA if you want. They must be defeated militarily so that a message goes to any other future adventurers that state or the polity called Uganda is here to stay regardless of who is in charge.

One of the greatest contributions of Museveni to Uganda is to thwart all those who thought that they could resort to arms to get power even though Museveni himself came to power through arms. Not every body can and should replicate that. Museveni has now forced all power seekers to try peaceful means. This is very good for the country hence the need to domesticate the LRA (read the Acholi).

So Gudoi, you came in very late.

ME

Mulindwa Edward
from Canada wrote on 20.Dezember 2003 um 15:18 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 199.243.7.184 (62.67.214.55)
Mwaami Ogaba
What is so criminal with being in Obote\'s militia? Are you today telling us that every body who worked in previous governments must not say any thing about Uganda? if those are the standards we are to use today then why is Museveni a president of Uganda? For he worked in Obote\'s government as well? let us put your reasoning to a logical level. Who exactly in past governments has a right to speak about Uganda issues? And I am going to take you as far back as from Buganda which went and attacked innocent Banyoro for their land, thousands and thousands of Banyoro were killed by Baganda, actually if you take time to read Buganda\'s history it was built on conquests, in fact there is a school of thought that the reason Mengo does not complain about the war in the North, the fact that many in Buganda say Ffe Kasita Twebaka when millions are dying in the North, the fact that Buganda wants to concoct a Federal system in Uganda when the rest of the nation is at war, is for Buganda expects to expand and take some potions in the North. Again it is a school of thought. Let us move on, we have people who have served in Obote one, Iddi Amin, Obote two, Binayisa, Lule,Tito and NRM. If all these people \"Shut UP\" to use your very eloquent term, who will speak about Uganda? How can you build a nation with out history? If people have come into this forum and claimed to have been trained and served under Konny and we still debate with them, what is so wrong to speak if you served under Obote?
Please educate me sir.
Em

Ogaba
from Uganda wrote on 20.Dezember 2003 um 13:42 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
Gudoi,

You are known to have been a UPC militia during Obote 2 regime. Is it now that you are realizing that world over people are talking of democracy?The problem with people like Gudoi is that they imagine that cold war propaganda is still the order of the day today. If you have nothing to say why dont you shut up?

Gudoi masaba jawal
from Uganda wrote on 20.Dezember 2003 um 10:33 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 64.152.195.37,64.152.195.195 (62.67.214.55)
Fellow country men and women,i think we are over lamenting.Time is now .Lets now mean what we always post on this forum.
The Kony issue would not be as serious as it is today.It is deriberate because the kampala government had its deals through this war .It is on record that the first family was in the center of corruption during the purchase of helicopters which were intended to dig out Kony.
As if that is not enough,this very government has at one moment over thrown some governments like Rwanda,Democratic Republic Of Congo,The central Republic of Africa and others.How the comes Kony a mere Jigger [as portrayed by Kampala government] has
persisted them?
It is also known that the A.D.F were wipped out within a few minutes from western Uganda . This was possible because the government had the will to do it. For me i see that there is double standard when addressing security issues.We sane Ugandans should now rise up and
demand for equal and balanced accontabilty in the northern question. And i would like to redirect my fellow statesmen and women that the northern question is not kony but it is \"Museven\" and therfore to over come this whole snug ,museven must quit leadership.
The northerners have suffered at the hands of this tyranic government and they [northerners] must now stage a civil uprising and we also come to help them.As a Uganda am fed up with lametations .Can we act now and throw out the self seekers from the government.
The world over now is all about democracy were presidents are to stand for a limited number of times for election as prsidents but again in Uganda we heve hybrid democracy were leaders want to be in power till they die.I have to inform whoever has the same motives that
Uganda is not a kingdom to follw such democracy. On top of that ,at a point when very few Ugandans have three square meals a day,live and talk peacefully without state harrasment,e.t.c i think it will be so impossible to recommend this archaick rule.

I

Agaba
from uganda wrote on 19.Dezember 2003 um 16:45 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
UGANDA 19/12/2003 10:16
LIRA DISTRICT: ATTACKS BY REBELS, VICTIMS
General, Brief


The rebels of the self-styled LRA (lord’s Resistance Army) launched an attack in the Apala area (Lira district) in north Uganda on Thursday morning, but they were repelled by the army, eyewitnesses told MISNA. The militias tried to attack a military barracks roughly ten kilometres from Ngetta and a ‘protected camp’ for refugees at the same time. The sources say three combatants were killed and two captured by the soldiers. A girl was also shot dead in the clashes. On Thursday, the news also emerged that LRA militias ambushed a car in Aminteyo (Adwari sub-county), a few kilometres from the Catholic mission at Aliwang, on Monday, killing three civilians, seriously wounding another and setting fire to the vehicle. Active in north Uganda for 15 years, LRA attacks civilians in the northern districts, who are abducted and robbed. Overwhelmed by the continual violence for a few months the Lango population in the Lira district has been organising armed self-defence groups called ‘Amuka’ (‘Rhino group’).

Gwanga
from U wrote on 19.Dezember 2003 um 16:20 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 202.175.95.47,202.175.34.89 (62.67.214.55)
Ayoo wrote:” My contract may soon expire. I have no intentions to renew it. “ Who gives a damn about your contract. Frankly speaking my dear Psychopath Ayoo, I do not give damn , I don’t care and the very least ....., may bee Kony and fellow Psychopath Mulindwa Edward. Pack up the crap and leave, go!.
“It is rumoured that .......” Your leaving will save the world of a rumourmonger. It is high time some facts are reported. Do you know where to take the romours, I will help you. Why bother anyway? Will you understand as dense as you are? All you understand is violence, killing, terrorism and massacre, psychopathic enough to murder your own people. God Forbid. Farewell into the oblivion as my last swipe on you deranged man.

Moses Ebu
from Soroti, Uganda wrote on 19.Dezember 2003 um 16:06 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
Micheal,

Thanks for at least appreciating the fact that I did not intend to insult you when I questioned your knowledge of International Humanitarian Law. You are free to hold your views on the effects the international arrest warrant will have on Kony just like I am free to do.

I also agree with you to a point that International Law is not an exact science and indeed that it can be manipulated. However, the practical value of Joseph Kony to the big powers of the world is so low in my view than no country would need to manipulate the Law to protect him. You may wish to know that Joseph Kony and his LRA are already listed as international terrorists by the only super power in the world - the USA. This is where the significance of this arrest warrant becomes clear to all.

Micheal, I suggest that you may have to look at some of these individuals on a case by case basis in order to understand them. Kony is not like Sharon who is being protected by the USA. Again the reason is their relative value to the protector. Even before the arrest warrant was issued - Sudan - the principle backer of LRA has been doing its best to distance itself from the LRA. Kony is now too much of a \'dirty baby\' for any one to hold on to especially considering the peace moves in Sudan.

ME

Moses Ebu
from Soroti, Uganda wrote on 19.Dezember 2003 um 14:58 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
Ayo,

You asked me to explain how it came that I am using the email address of Peter Okello. This is really a private matter between the two of us. Hardly your business. However, since you have a paternalistic attitude being the owner of this medium, let me inform you that Ebu and Okello are intellectual friends. He introuduced me to this forum and latter abondoned it because he said that level of debate was far below his standards. He went back to do what he does best - academic research. Does this answer you??
By the way Mr. Ayo, could you also kindly explain to me what motivated you to \"expose\" us? What does it change? In retrospect, I see that you are again trying to resort to what I had said earlier: intimidating those whose views do not concide with yours regarding Uganda\'s politics. You remember that that time you said something to the effect that although you did not like our views your nevertheless \"happily\" left us to continue in your site! I told you then that you were not doing us a favour. My position remains the same.
Incidentally, what is in a name or an email adddress? Do you know that I can be Okello/Ebu today and be Musoke/Onen/Kony or Otti tommorow? Do you know that I can open as many email addresses as I want and continue posting my views?
By way advice to you Mr. Ayo and others who happen to think like you, please do not waste time on scrutinising peoples names or email addresses. Doing so amounts to fighting \'form\' rather than \'substance\'. Respond to our ideas/arguments (substance) rather than our names and email addresses (form). Have my ideas been a thorn to you that you thought the only way to defeat them is to expose the author? It will not help, becuase I will continue sending the same views using any name and email address.

ME

Gwanga
from U wrote on 19.Dezember 2003 um 14:23 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 202.175.95.47,202.175.44.4 (62.67.214.55)
A call has again been made upon me has again to defend the vulnerable, the innocent, the wailing, the kids and their mothers whose fathers and husbands are being sponsored the regions elite under Joseph Kony. I\'m again gone and will not be able to access your sh.t for several weeks. All I ask you is help in bringing about peace to the Nation and your own people. I miss my bed , my family and here I go again to ward off the insanity a group of Psychopathic Ten Commandments LRA and elite disciples like you Ayoo. How can a P4 Altar boy rule over a man of your calibre age, education like you Ayoo! It is absurd, very absurd indeed!

Gwanga
from U wrote on 19.Dezember 2003 um 14:13 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 202.175.95.47,202.175.44.4 (62.67.214.55)
Fellow Ugandans , International community and all those citizens that inhabit the planet earth, The utterences of a man whose slogan is democracy , peace and liberty on RRAI by the name of Godfrey Ayoo and on the other hand is testimony to why the war in the north has and must continue because there is no other solution when the Ayoo’s still take a breath. Ayoo is one of the elites of the region promising a solution to the conflict, however his utterences is evendence that it is well nigh impossible to achieve peace in the region, wether by negotiations or peaceful settlement. The solution to LRA and its elite Ayoos is an all out war to tatally destroy their machinery so that the children can go back to sleep in their warm huts. The young boys need to go back to the jungles to carry on the old age traditions of hunting birds for lunch, dance Abwola, the teenage girls to show off their pin pointed breasts in Dinging dance to attract their soulmates, the men to dance Larakaraka, to tend the gardens and the girls learn to balancee the odelo basket during the millet harvest. With people like LRA and Ayoo, the gap is ever growing wider and wider for the traditions to be preserved and feel proude of the tribes and preserve tribal identity. Ayoo will not understand the fore going utterences of mine but from his own vo***ulary, read my fingers, he will. “Ayoo you may return to Lango to kiss the graves of LRA fallen comrades, and when you done with that give up the dream of embarking on a man hunt for more innocents! I swear not even an insect hole will keep you away until you are brought to justice for the crimes of which you have continuusly fueled and about to commit. Hunting ,killing and cooking of innocent Langi people into pots, the raping, sodomisation, displacing mankind from thier homes and dwellings, denial of school to the children if you ever succeed, I shudder. You are history Ayoo.
Godfrey Ayoofrom Cologne wrote on 18.Dezember 2003 um 1

Gwanga
from U wrote on 19.Dezember 2003 um 13:36 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 202.175.95.47,202.175.34.54 (62.67.214.55)
Godfrey Ayoo,
When you go to bed tonight take a moment to ask yourself, “ what have I really contributed to Uganda by my postings.” Have they made a difference at all as far as the insurgency is concerned? I may be wrong, but the answer is that you have made a great deal of a difference by fuelling the LRA misdirected determination which is wiping many of you but on a sorry point the innocent people of the north. You once welcomed you member to reassure the desperate people of your kind that LRA is moving to Kampala and presently has an upper hand in the war. That was a bunch of Bullsh.t Ayoo!You are a man just as those who are difficult to reprogram against war because you are taught to fight, just for the sake of fighting and violence since the traditional age of four. I well understand that the ranks of Tabuley are still vacant and you are welcome to them, but with a stern warning I say unto you Ayoo , you too will not only kiss the graves of your kin and kith, but will be destroyed into the oblivion to an extent that you shitty violent name you have struggled so much to build will be no more. You utterances are not only incriminating but testify to the fact that you an LRA man, a terrorist, a killer, a pathologically angry and a psychopath. This paints the picture what really RRAI is and what are its objectives. For an institution with any sanity, where would you get leeway to vomit the following without being fired?: “ .......and when I will be through with that I will embark on a man hunt for you, not even an insect hole will keep you away until you are brought to justice for your crimes.” For any mature elite man of your land , a man of advanced age let us say with a micron of sanity and spirituality, is that the best you can offer as a solution to this conflict? You are evidence to why the insurgency has lasted for all these years. The Baganda say “You only grew the head upwards and left wisdom down on the ground! I’m too disappointed

Agaba
from Uganda wrote on 19.Dezember 2003 um 12:25 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
Ayoo,

I did not expect a man like you to be engaged in day dreaming. But wait a minute, since it has been revealed by ex-LRA abductees that you are LRA external mouthpiece no wonder that you can engage in such adrivel about getting in power soon. About returning to Lango , I think you are again dreaming. You expect the Langis not to know that your are the hand behind their massacre? In fact you may not last a minute if you set your foot in Lango before the spirits of the innocent dead Langis strungle you to death. Ayoo you forget that there is internet in Lango and people there acces this forum and your radio. Do you imagine that people do not know the silent hand behind LRA atrocities in Lango? In as much as the Langi have the magnanimity for forgiveness for you you will not be pardoned.

Antony
from United Kingdom wrote on 18.Dezember 2003 um 23:20 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 172.146.204.178 (62.67.214.55)
By now it should have become clear to any person that’s clued on about the long war in Uganda, that its time to try a new approach, i.e. peaceful means to bring it to an end. I hate to keep repeating the same points but it seems some haven’t seen the light.
Seventeen years is ample time to conclude that the military way as a main way of ending the war has failed miserably. Instead if we are to believe recent events, the troubles have rather spread not decreased.
I was hearted to learn that the European union was drawing up a possibly road map to peace. The international community have the unique opportunity to influence events and I believe they must demand that both parties negotiate a settlement.
The must also force the dictatorship to commit to a genuine peace process and stop insisting on pursuing a dead end policies. Excuses like more military spending is needed to win the war are flawed like I pointed out before. Prime minister Blair has the best army in the world but why is he negotiating with the IRA? Indeed a peacefully negotiated model is what the UK government is recommending.

Godfrey Ayoo
from Cologne wrote on 18.Dezember 2003 um 19:53 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 195.14.197.209 (62.67.214.55)
Gwanga,

So you spent some time with the slain bodies of my kit and kith only to run away from their stench. I am sure that you know very little about me, because if you did, then you should have known that I am employed to clean the same loilets that was previously cleaned by the killer dictator Museveni. My contract may soon expire. I have no intentions to renew it. It is rumoured that dictator Museveni may return to his old job, htus he may succeed me. However, unlike me he will have no rest because Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, the DRC and many other people will be trailing to bring him to justice. I am definately returning to Lango to kiss the graves of my kith and kin, and when I will be through with that I will embark on a man hunt for you, not even an insect hole will keep you away until you are brought to justice for your crimes.

Godfrey Ayoo
from Cologne wrote on 18.Dezember 2003 um 18:26 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 195.14.197.46 (62.67.214.55)
Moses Ebu,
can you explain how you ended up using the e-mail address of Peter Okello

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Moses Ebu from Soroti, Uganda wrote on 18.Dezember 2003 um 15:55 Uhr:
E-Mail: peter_okello@yahoo.com
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Micheal,

Your education level may be neither here nor there as you say but I certainly did not mean that you are lowly educated in every aspect. I was specifically referring to your knowledge of International Law and Human Rights for which I am pleased to say I am more schooled in. Off course you may be educated in any other field such as chemistry, biology, etc etc. Ths does not mean that you are schooled in Int. Law and Human Rights. Do you agree with me that a Prof. in Mathematics is most likely very uneducated in Political Science and vice versa? It is in this context that I referred to you as not being educated enough on issues to do with Int. Law and Human rights. Your assertion therefore that I insulted you is therefore \"neither here not there\".

Micheal, in any case the point of contention between me and me was whether one should put much faith in the arrest warrant in regard to Kony or not. You say no. I say yes. Even if Kony is not arrested, but for sure the issuance of that warrant in my view makes his life a little more difficult. I do not remember saying that Kony should be convicted without a proper trial. He should get his day in court. However, since Kony is still fighting in the bush, I would not mind him getting killed in the process if that can save thousands of lives of innocent Ugandans and Sudanese he is killing daily. Every extra day this criminal lives is a danger to hunanity.

ME
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Michael
from United Kingdom wrote on 18.Dezember 2003 um 17:07 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 213.78.9.220 (62.67.214.55)
Mr Ebu,

I agree with you to a point, and that is that an international arrest warrant will make life more difficult for Kony. Where I disagree is in the implied suggestion that it will either end Kony\'s rebellion (for want of a better word) or diminish it.

As I said before, the government can issue an arrest warrant but this will only make a difference if Kony is located and there is the will to capture him. If he is captured alive then extradition proceedings can start but there is no guarantee that he will be sent back to Uganda. He may well be tried outside Uganda\'s borders and punished there or released. That will also apply to his followers.

We saw the capture of Saddam Hussein this week, netted after more than 7 months in a country controlled by the US. Attacks on US troops have not ended. Now the legal process will begin against him.

International Law, my friend, is not an exact science and is usually manipulated to suit international politics. Consequently, human rights tend to become a casualty even in the most democratic of nations. I still say Kony\'s fate will only be determined when he is captured or killed, not by a piece of paper.

Moses Ebu
from Soroti, Uganda wrote on 18.Dezember 2003 um 15:55 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
Micheal,

Your education level may be neither here nor there as you say but I certainly did not mean that you are lowly educated in every aspect. I was specifically referring to your knowledge of International Law and Human Rights for which I am pleased to say I am more schooled in. Off course you may be educated in any other field such as chemistry, biology, etc etc. Ths does not mean that you are schooled in Int. Law and Human Rights. Do you agree with me that a Prof. in Mathematics is most likely very uneducated in Political Science and vice versa? It is in this context that I referred to you as not being educated enough on issues to do with Int. Law and Human rights. Your assertion therefore that I insulted you is therefore \"neither here not there\".

Micheal, in any case the point of contention between me and me was whether one should put much faith in the arrest warrant in regard to Kony or not. You say no. I say yes. Even if Kony is not arrested, but for sure the issuance of that warrant in my view makes his life a little more difficult. I do not remember saying that Kony should be convicted without a proper trial. He should get his day in court. However, since Kony is still fighting in the bush, I would not mind him getting killed in the process if that can save thousands of lives of innocent Ugandans and Sudanese he is killing daily. Every extra day this criminal lives is a danger to hunanity.

ME

Lisa Toro
from UK wrote on 18.Dezember 2003 um 14:45 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.173.134.52 (62.67.214.55)
Goddy,

NRA/M are streched to the limit! Do you read and hear that language. for sure they are under pressure that RRIA is crashing their propaganda voices that have always made NRA/M confused the population and the outside world. Now people affected are hearing what they see, their understanding of events on the ground. The people affected can now hear of the hell they are living through through the out side world, this gives them hope, its like some one feels and understands the horrors we are in! at last!

Above all the NRA/M WESTERN backers may have themselves turn back the pressure on NRA/M. and as in ISO, ESO are not scraching currently the pressure foe them is maximising, that failure is fustrating to them and it is all manifested in this Gwanga posting. Every member must now take more care than ever before. Goddy you know how you should look after yourself and please do it as you know it.


Toro

Gwanga
from U wrote on 18.Dezember 2003 um 13:28 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 202.175.95.47,202.175.43.218 (62.67.214.55)
To count fight the lies and rumours, intended to sow hate and disunity among a people, these are facts from a respected Northerner of Uganda. UPDF may be to blame for not responding fast enough, but there is no mass killing or extermination of citizens as Ayoo misleadingly hauls and bleat over RRAI and Mulindwa spins his empty head backward fainting to senselessness and on waking up, he self declares himself, the only and only critical thinker of our time. The international community must know that this Radio is a mere bunch of lies and fabrication by people like Mulindwa Edward, Ayoo and the whole bunch of Psychotics and malingerers who once benefited from the previous regimes. These people are suffering from a stomach uptight and lack of sleep over how soon they can once again benefit from office the day LRA wins. Read Ayoo’s fingers and over anyone’s dead body, this will never happen! Hon Olum a respected sane man from the region and his word is stood by and he speaks against RRAI’s LRA, thus:” Olum said, “Our walkout was to protest the slaughter of our people by the LRA as the Government looked on. It was so painful and our people were bitter and we resolved that something must be done to stop the slaughter and I think we have achieved it. The 34 MPs walked out of Parliament on November 20, after the MP for Oyam South, Dr Okulo Epak read out a grim report on the humanitarian and security situation in Lango.

Agaba
from Uganda wrote on 18.Dezember 2003 um 07:13 Uhr:
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
Assimwe,

When people are posting serious submissions from Uganda , for you, you are engaged in fantansies like Kony? You see the other day Kony said he was about to take over power in Kampala.

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