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Gwanga
from U wrote on 17.Dezember 2003 um 17:45 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 202.175.95.47,202.175.47.134 (62.67.214.55)
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| I haven\'t been here for a while. Unfortunately, nothing has changed in the utterances, roumors and lies plastered over here. Little Mulindwa , critical thinker- a Socrates of our shitty times, Ayoo the RRAI hauler and the whole bag of evil psychopathic minds . God forbid, you are not yet the solution to Uganda\'s problem and you will never be, yet you think you are especially from your Naturalised comfort zones where your are surviving on the contributions of the people there. When you go to bed tonight take a moment to ask yourselves, what have I really contributed to Uganda by your postings. Have they made a difference at all? If you are not factoid people, but rather people of facts, you have helped no one whose lips, limbs, ears have been chopped off .You haven\'t not gone in any books or reached any circles that record contributions. It is a shear waste of your fleeting shitty lives. In your acquired western suits and shoes , you look like a kind of water which look crystal clear yet its taste is foul. Come over and help the victims off the circumstances of Uganda before you mention Rwanda or DRC. Ayoo, your own blood runs thick in the jungle footpaths of Lango. COME and help at the very place where help is needed other than promoting hate, tribalism, and roumors. I have been there and I have seen it all. The Lira jungle is ever under surveillance by the voltures which are burying your people you have sacrificed for a mere gain of this mortal world power you hunger for . You evil powers have got a great contribution to this senseless spill of your own blood the destruction of part of the great family of my kind, Mankind. While thereI could not stand the stench of your own people , Ugandana, fellow Africans, my p[eople rotting in the jungle. The only thing you have contributed to this world is clogging the toilets in Germany, Toronto, UK, and make yourselves richer yourselves with those who have been misled that you are helping the p |
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Michael
from United Kingdom wrote on 16.Dezember 2003 um 11:50 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 213.78.9.220 (62.67.214.55)
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Mr Ebu,
Just one more point.
I really hope you do not sincerely believe that the world\'s only remaining superpower values human rights so much that it will put it over another country\'s sovereignty. If this were the case, the USA would have invaded Uganda (or at least those areas being troubled by Kony), Sudan (where his bases are), eastern DRC, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Sierra Leone etc.
Perhaps, because I\'m so poorly educated, I can not appreciate that the lives of the citizens of these countries are not as valuable as the human rights of Afghans, Kuwaitis, Iraqis (and probably Iranians in the near future). |
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Michael
from United Kingdom wrote on 16.Dezember 2003 um 11:33 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 213.78.9.220 (62.67.214.55)
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Mr Ebu,
With due respect, my level of education is neither here nor there. You do your case no good by being insulting instead of reasoning your case (something I\'m sure you are pretty capable of doing if you put your mind to it).
Once again, you seem to associate any one who expresses divergence from your opinion with support for Kony, or opposition to the government of Uganda.
With due respect, if Kony is arrested outside Uganda he will face due process of the law. That means arrest, formal hearing of the case against him BEFORE any decision to extradite him. He will not face arrest and summary execution.
Much as there has been an advance in the world over human rights, the fact of the matter is that some human rights criminals will always be more \"innocent\" than others; not because they did not commit atrocities, but because they were serving the interests of certain superpowers. Cases in point: Idi Amin, Pinochet, and Sadam Hussiein until he went against the interests of a certain superpower.
So, my friend, much as I agree with you that Kony should be caught, tried and punished, I remain realistic about his fate. You have to catch him first, then try him, and if found guilty, punish him. Convicting him before he is caught and tried does not conform with the Human Rights values you claim to be very educated about. |
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Mulindwa Edward
from Toronto wrote on 13.Dezember 2003 um 19:19 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 216.154.7.39 (62.67.214.55)
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It becomes very complicated to follow a discussion which goes in generalities, in my posting I decided to post particular facts to back my statments and what I expected was to respond to me that I have mis lead the members for Uganda Air Line is well and running today, for Trans Ocean is well and running today, For Uganda transport Corporation is well and running today, for Uganda\'s prominent schools like Boro Boro SSS are running today, for Uganda\'s debt has not gone through the roof, for Uganda Hospitals are not infection centres, for an operation in Mbaale Hospital, a main referral hospital in Eastern Uganda if I may add, was not finished on a torch for load shading had taken the electricity.
Where can I start and where can I end on how NRM has buried the once pearl of Africa? But this is what I get again in the generalities, NRM and Museveni remain popular, Uganda was in the hands of semi illiterates, UPC is realistic on and on. Okay now that we have established all that, can we go to the specific institutions the government from the bush found working and have destroyed them? And you are attacking Iddi Amin, a man who built Uganda House in Manhattan that NRM failed to even pay water to run its toilets?
Please let us get out the generalities let us get some serious answers here on a nation destroyed. For you can get a man out of the bush but you can not get the bush out of him. How befitting on Uganda?
Em |
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Moses Ebu
from Soroti, Uganda wrote on 11.Dezember 2003 um 17:07 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 213.55.64.78 (62.67.214.55)
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Mulindwa,
You are clearly suffering from a hate mania against the NRM government and you need to be helped out of it. Your hatred of the NRM is so strong that you can easily perpetrate genocide against those who support the it if given chance. Why all this hatred? I know some of you will never forgive NRM and Museveni for kicking the governments you supported from power. You may in your pathological hatred of NRM spread all sorts of lies. Unfortunately however, that will not change anything on the ground. NRM and Museveni remain very popular that the opposition - if we have any at all - will take long to beat it in an election.
NRM has resqued the country from the hands of semi illiterates like the Okellos, tribalists like UPC etc. The economy has be revamped and is on the upward swing, investments by both foreigners and Ugandans are on the rise. At the international level Uganda is no longer the pariah state that the Okellos and Obote plus Amin had led it to. For all this the people of Uganda are eternally gretful to the NRM and Museveni that they do not see why such a good leader should be constitinally barred from continuing to offer good leadership services to the country - something that used to lack until 1986. Bravo Museveni, Bravo NRM!! Never shall Ugandans again allow butchers of the past to get hold of the state machinery.
By the way I want to confirm to you that whereas constitutionally it is allowed for a northerner to rule Uganda, however due to the past abuse of power by northern leaders i.e. Obote I, Amin, Obote II, the Okellos, it is unlikely in the near future for a leader from the north to reside in state house. The situations has been worsed by the activities of Kony. Most of the people of Uganda including northerners themselves are not yet sure of the leadership qualities of leaders from up who could easily take the country back to the brutish and nasty past. |
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Mulindwa Edward
from Toronto wrote on 11.Dezember 2003 um 02:07 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 216.154.5.78 (62.67.214.55)
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IT JUST BAFFLES ME
As human beings we all have a right to support or not to support any body, that is a fundamental right given to us by God him self. With the same right we can chose to not even engage our selves into any discussion. But when we engage or when we support we do it when our minds are open. Yes today you can support an individual and tomorrow according to what you now know oppose him/her, again it is all in that rights clause. It however amazes me how any body can today fight for NRM. That just make my heart tremble. For what NRM has done in our nation needs no one to sell. Uganda is worse today than even when Iddi Amin an illiterate was leading it. We have lost prominent schools, we have lost hospitals, we have lost the roads, we have lost Uganda Airlines, we have lost Uganda Transport Corporation, we have the highest debt ever, we have for the first time a region where all people are internally displaced for seventeen years, but we have lost almost four million Ugandans. And I am not going to mention the morals which are all but dead. Corruption is eating our nation for dinner, we have attacked basically all our neighbours and created massacres in Rwanda Congo and Burundi. But we have created enmity around us that even when Museveni is gone, we will be attacked by Congo by Rwanda by Burundi by central African republic, and by all our neighbours. One just has to see how the population from these nations talk about Uganda a nation of Killers. But when any body passes all those things and praises the movement in Uganda, a government that has never ruled the entire Uganda for even five minutes. Then you know how poisonous is politicization. For it gets a brain of a normal person and it twists it to the liking of the ruling government.
May God help us for we live in very strange days indeed
Em |
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Patrict Assimwe
from Uganda wrote on 8.Dezember 2003 um 22:20 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 81.173.128.12 (62.67.214.55)
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help. However, when the volunteers arrived they could
find no other doctor in the hospital. They saw the wounded, but there was
little they could do. Later they met the acting medical superintendent who
had been called from his duties to attend to the president\'s visit. Still
later they met one other doctor who dropped a patient at the hospital for
caesarean section and then disappeared again.
That evening, I got another call to say that, as well as the villagers who
had injuries from the LRA attack, there was a patient who had been in a
road
traffic accident and needed an urgent amputation of the leg, but the
anaesthetic officer would not allow them to operate. There was no
succamethonium in the hospital (a drug to induce the anaesthetic) and he
insisted that she would be alright until the morning. In fact she died that
evening, never having reached theatre.
There are apparently some doctors in Lira hospital who have become hardened
to human suffering, some don\'t report for duty, while others appeared
obstructive. The medical superintendent has already reported this situation
to the Ministry of Health, but as yet no action has been taken. The
situation in Lira would be defined as an emergency in most countries, and
extra medical help would be sent. A hospital in a war torn area that has no
succamethonium, no surgical gloves, no gauze and few doctors, is clearly a
national disgrace.
This is not just a question of finger pointing at individual doctors, the
government through the Ministry of Health have had ample time to ensure
that
Lira Hospital is properly staffed and properly supplied. The government
needs to show by its actions that it is ensuring that the medical system
works. The reason that the Lango MPs gave, for walking out of Parliament,
is
that they cannot stand by, while little is being done to help the plight of
their fellow Lango. A working medical system would be one way to alleviate
this plight.
Politicians and |
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Patrict Assimwe
from Uganda wrote on 8.Dezember 2003 um 22:18 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 81.173.128.12 (62.67.214.55)
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\"We need people who care by Dr.Ian Clarke\"
Sunday, 23rd November, 2003
ON Tuesday afternoon I received a call from a lady called Els De Temmerman.
This former journalist has done so much for children in the north, she has
raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay school fees and has now
started a rehabilitation centre in Lira for formerly abducted children. She
called me because there had been another attack on a village just six
kilometres outside Lira. Apparently the LRA came into the village in the
dead of night and went from house to house holding the occupants at
gunpoint
and telling them that if they made a sound they would be shot. Then they
clubbed their victims to death and carried on to the next house. There was
no alarm raised, no one realised that their neighbour was being executed
until it was too late.
The next afternoon the wounded survivors struggled into Lira hospital. They
filled up the already overcrowded wards by finding themselves a place on
the
floor. Els was distressed by what she saw, so she phoned to ask if I could
arrange for some medical help. I called some friends and Dr. Peter
Serwadda,
a surgeon, and Dr. Charles Kalumuna, a medical officer, volunteered to go
up
to Lira. I contacted the medical superintendent who happened to be in
Kampala for her graduation in a Master\'s degree in paediatrics and she was
able to tell me that the hospital had no sterile gloves, they also needed
gauze, cotton wool and IV fluids. The next day Dr. Peter and Dr. Charles
travelled to Lira with the necessary supplies.
Lira Hospital has 280 beds and 500 patients. Currently there are supposed
to
be 10 doctors, but three have gone for further studies and two passed away,
that leaves five. The young doctor who was recently appointed as medical
superintendent had come to Kampala for her graduation ? which should have
been a joyous time for her. That still left four doctors on the ground,
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