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Moses Ebu
from Soroti, Uganda wrote on 13.November 2003 um 11:50 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
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Ayo, since you have made yourself clear, I hereby declare a ceasefire on the issue of banning dissenting opinion from your forum. We can then handle other issues.
Mark, unless your are just being insincere or lazy or both there is simply no way you can say that there are no other sources of information on Uganda apart from the New Vision. For the record let me show you just a few of the other sources of information on Uganda: BBC which has more than one correspondent in the country, Voice of America, Voice of German, CNN, the UN Agencies, Human Rights Organisations like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, Local and International NGOs, various websites run by the government institutions such as Uganda Human Rights Commmission, State House, Ministry of Defence, Ministry of Finance etc. There are also web sites run by opposition political parties openly hostile to the government. About 80 diplomatic missions are based in Uganda including that of UK which has an active informatiom centre. Mark, incidentally one of the strong points of \"dictator Museveni\" is the openess with which he has conducted his government and this has been recognised internatioally. Freedom of expression, the press etc are in excess in Uganda compared to other countries around. Mark, I am appaled and galled at your assertion that \"Any source (of information) is good. We can decide how reliable it is later\". This is very very dangerous becuase you can use wrong information to perpetuate gonocide for instance only to find that it was all wrong in the first place!! Please take of some time to verify you inforamtion before acting. If you did so you might even find that Museveni is not the \"dictator\" that you have been led to believe.
Just look at the recent postings by Ayo, Antony, Oloro etc. They have all resorted to selective copying and pastings excepts from the media in Uganda to support their arguments. Whereases they believe that these pastings will show how bad the reg |
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Antony
from United Kingdom wrote on 12.November 2003 um 21:31 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 213.122.83.150 (62.67.214.55)
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Continued
Source: The Monitor
The rebel National Resistance Army was a liberation force in 1981 but had by 1989 integrated other fighting forces. In 1992, a law was enacted, the National Resistance Army Statute No. 3 of 1992, to regulate and/or govern the army. However, at the time of writing a new constitution, it was clear that it could not qualify to be called a national army.
The Statute governing it was also considered out of step with the realities on ground, which is why Parliament was mandated to come up with another law.
Today, one is safe in contending that UPDF is just a code name. Legally, it is not in existence. No enabling law was made to bring NRA in tune with the constitution or to provide, for example, that the NRA would be replaced by UPDF.
The army’s partisan nature is exemplified by the President’s conduct. In the March 2001 presidential campaigns, Museveni told Col. Kizza Besigye that he risked ending up six feet underground if he continued to claim the support of the army. The involvement of senior military officers and paramilitary groups in the said elections was in Museveni’s interests.
The president has now encouraged a militia code-named “the Arrow Group” to fight and contain the insurgency in Teso. A similar group called Rhino has been launched in Lango. Under Article 209(a) of the constitution, the functions of “UPDF” are to preserve and defend the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Uganda. The involvement of civilians in a militia could be proof that the army has failed.
Museveni says that Kony has been defeated but is yet to be eliminated. While I am reluctant to delve into the difference between ‘defeat’ and ‘elimination’ one wonders why the “UPDF” and the so-called Reserve Force still fight pitched battles if indeed Kony was “defeated”.
Ugandans still have to be told why the government is re-arming with the Lord’s Resistance Army in mind?
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Antony
from United Kingdom wrote on 12.November 2003 um 21:29 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 213.122.83.150 (62.67.214.55)
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‘UPDF is not a national army’
By Jack sabiiti
Nov 13, 2003
Since independence presidents in Uganda have continued to believe that power is the property of the presidency alone, that power only originates in violence and that to remain in power the president must own the army, and centralise all institutions of government.Those who lived under Dr Apollo Milton Obote will remember that the gun was a major variable in his leadership. Idi Amin’s (RIP) rule is well known for its brutality. Yoweri Museveni’s rule is not very different from his predecessors. Nearly everyday we read about death in the north and north east of the country. Uganda’s various presidents since independence have been dictators, but Museveni’s rule is a more refined dictatorship and militaristic. Talk of the people’s power is but mere revolutionary rhetoric. As George Orwell correctly put it, one makes a revolution in order to establish dictatorship.Museveni has exhibited a lack of faith in institutions, electing to personalise the State. The army and all other instruments of coercion have continued to operate at the whims of the President.Although Article 208(1) of the constitution provides that there shall be armed forces to be known as the Uganda People’s Defence Forces, an army that is non-partisan, national in character, patriotic, professional, disciplined, productive and subordinate to the civilian authority, to-date, no law has been enacted by Parliament to this effect.In fact under Article 210 of the constitution, Parliament is enjoined to make a law regulating UPDF, providing for its organs, recruitment, appointment, promotion, discipline, among other things. Both the 6th and 7th Parliaments have demanded for a bill to be presented to Parliament without success.The rebel National Resistance Army was a liberation force in 1981 but had by 1989 integrated other fighting forces. In 1992, a law was enacted, the National Resistance Army Statute No. 3 of 1992, to regulate and/or govern th |
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Moses Ebu
from Soroti, Uganda wrote on 12.November 2003 um 16:02 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 81.199.21.6 (62.67.214.55)
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Mr. Ayo you wrote: \"A careful look at the IP address of Peter Okello, Ebu, Ogaba and Agaba will indicate to you that most often they or the same person\\'s message originates from one place. I am quite aware of their presence, but am glad to let them continue on this forum\". I have taken note of your impled threat to abn us frou you forum. Since you are the owner of RRIA, you have the right to ban those of us who do not share your views on the best way forward for Uganda. You may however wish to know that you are not doing anybody a favour - at least not me. I understand your frustrations though. You set up RRIA as a forum of misinforming the world about the true happenings in Uganda so that you may project the interests of UPC and other decadent forces. Unfortunately, this is not happening because of the messages we give. So now you have resorted cheaply labelling us of being in ISO and ESO as if this will win the argument. Does belonging to these organisation deny one his/her rights of expression. It would look to me that you want only the likes of yourself, Mulindwa, Antony, Oloro etc to be the only ones to post views on your Guestbook. If this is what you want state it clearly and begin censoring our postings. I would not mind about RRIA if what it was reporting was non partisan. The same applies to the Guestbook. I would also not mind if the postings in the Guestbook were only read by Ugandans especially those in the country who know what is actually happening on the ground. Unfortunately it is also read by foreignors who are very susceptible to your lies and distortions. So they should get both sides of the story and be able to judge for themselves. Let me repeat my last question to you: Did set up the RRIA and the Guestbook for UPC exiles to massage their bruised egos or was it meant for genuine debate?
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Mulindwa Edward
from Canada wrote on 12.November 2003 um 10:41 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 216.154.4.75 (62.67.214.55)
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That is the nonsense I hate to hear from people like Bantariza, did any one hear of Kadogo;s in Uganda before the creation of NRM? These are people who decided to wage a war as the best path to power, and they did this through children, they moved to Rwanda and children popped up in the army, today the same is happening in DRC. What is common in all those nations? It is NRM and NRA and UPDF, what the nonsense? Like I said, we must look at the bigger picture in Great Lakes and compare notes for then and only then can we call our selves critical thinkers. Museveni strongly believes in destroying children, and he rules through fear. Read his book The Mustard seed, he states, \"When you put fear in masses they obey\" That is why it is very important for NRM to make public individuals whose ears are cut off, for then the rest of population will live under fear to obey. These are public writings one can get any where. So Mr Bantariza, talk when you have some thing worth our time.
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Antony
from United Kingdom wrote on 12.November 2003 um 03:18 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 81.135.77.77 (62.67.214.55)
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By Alfred Wasike
UGANDA has been implicated by a new United Nations report as one of the countries around the world where children are being recruited into Government and rebel fighting forces.
The UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan, has forwarded the controversial report to the UN General Assembly and the Security Council for debate.
But a riled Uganda Peoples Defence Forces spokesperson, Major Shaban Bantariza, yesterday dismissed the report as false.
“That report is very wrong about Uganda. It is our policy. All including UNICEF know it. We do not recruit soldiers below 18 years. Our recruitment bracket is above 18 and below 25 years of age.”
The report singles out the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Colombia, Guatemala, El Salvador, Myanmar, Nepal, Northern Ireland, Philippines, Rwanda, Srebrenica, Sierra Leone, Sri Lanka, Sudan, and Uganda as some of the nations where thousands of children have been recruited into government and rebel fighting forces, murdered or disfigured.
“If people sneak into recruitment due to lack of proof like birth certificates and we find out that they are below 18, we pull them out.
“We did that in conjunction with UNICEF in August this year at Lugole training camp in Gulu where we were recruiting LDUs. If we can’t recruit minors into the LDUs, then we can’t use them in the regular army,” he said.
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Mulindwa Edward
from Canada wrote on 12.November 2003 um 01:12 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 216.154.4.25 (62.67.214.55)
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Godfrey Ayo
As people who have stayed abroad for a while, there are things you must accept. The problems in Uganda have never been up and front as they are today, thanks to RRIA. And yes I have seen questions to who I am referring to in the international community, for they all have embassies in Uganda, to those I say you need to understand how diplomatic circles work. But today I can tell you that the death of the people in Uganda will never be covered under the blanket of \"Ffe kasita Twebaka\" Yes we have fought for the population of Uganda since the very day Museveni declared a war on them, but today we are many for the numbers have built up. it is on a centre stage and I can not ask for any thing more, for all I had before was \"Mulindwa you as a Muganda why worry about Northerners\"? Today I can tell you that it is a national problem.
But let me as well say this, creating a project like RRIA is not a joke, I mean one has to pass in places like Radio Uganda or in Uganda embassy both in London and Ottawa where I have been, then you will know how complicated these things are to run, I mean if we did not have the Rwandese embassy in Uganda house in Manhattan we would not have a photo copying machine for example, this is a building where water was shut off and all toilets went num. Where is Uganda Government?
So I think we should be very careful with insults thrown into this forum and that is why they bother me not a single bit, for you know what? I am in a forum to learn and to exchange ideas, and I will continue doing exactly that, and Mwaami Gwanga will continue doing what he does, after all we live in a free society. That is the way he wants to express him self, good for him, but I will continue with my posting and my full respect to him. For he deserves nothing less.
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Godfrey Ayoo
from Cologne - Germany wrote on 11.November 2003 um 19:23 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 194.8.197.204,194.8.196.170 (62.67.214.55)
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Dear Guests,
The Uganda Kampala killer dictatorship has 2 very dreadful security aparatus known as ISO and ESO. ISO means internal security organisation, while ESo means external security aparatus. ISO operates from within the country-Uganda, while ESO operates from outside Uganda, with its headquarters of operation based in Woshington DC in USA. It is from this office in USA that the Gwangas and co are operating and writing from. They are under clear instructions to derail RRIA and any other organised Uganda Communities or individuals campaigning for the respect of human rights, good governance, rule of law, justice, end of wars etc. A careful look at the IP address of Peter Okello, Ebu, Ogaba and Agaba will indicate to you that most often they or the same person\'s message originates from one place. I am quite aware of their presence, but am glad to let them continue on this forum. However, I am disaapointed that they all choose to dodge questions and issues raised, and instead result to insults. I for for one doesn\'t care about their insults. Now they threaten me with deportation to silence me, but I must tell them here and now that they don\'t seem to know whom and what they have got in their hands. If my posting can lead to such anger and insults from the Gwangas (angels of the killer regime) how much harm wouldf that killer regime be to the people inside Uganda.
RRIA is bringing the devils cards of concealed gross human rights abuses to the open, and will lead the nation to rise and cleanse itself against tyranny. |
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Gwanga
from U wrote on 11.November 2003 um 16:33 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 202.175.95.47,202.175.67.177 (62.67.214.55)
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| Deranged MUlindwa, Kakokolo Obote once said ( A dead muganda is a good one) You must be a dead piece of brain .you shit head.When It comes to the the Kabaka issues, I must say explicitly that you a big shit head stupid asshole that fart inward bulging you up with poisonous gases into illusion of a critical thinker. Never have Gwanga ever given views on (reinstating the Buganda Kingdom). You must have read that after Omulo, or after trying out too many of the masturbating techniques posted on Ayoo’s orgasmic recreation centre. Too much of anything is bad for you; therefore okwefunusa ekisinziiro too many times for orgasmic pleasure you are hallucinating about me. You mother must have been a no good ganda too for having not hit your hands for titillating your private organ. When did I tell you that I\'m a Ganda ? How did you come with all these ideas about me regarding Kabaka? This is a sign of insanity that has consumed your whole being. (This is a President who preys on cheap minds of the likes of Gwanga who praise him for reinstating the Buganda kingdom.And that is the difference between me and Gwanga, for we are both Baganda) Point me to a date when I have ever praised the president for reinstating the Kabaka? If you wanted me to give my opinion on the Kabaka, this is not the way to ask me .You have lost it all. I was beginning to search for any little brain left in you.You have proved beyond any doubt there isn’t, in such an insane no good Muganda. Do you even have children to entrust the future of Ugand to. What a waste of generations? Having been poisoned, keep them in Canada , better garbage of children over there than continue with the insanity of an ignorant stupid idiotic so called critical thinker father. If you had a soul, if at all, you must have apologised for this you ass hole. You are really sick about to crack! The sooner the better to get the world of you piece of garbage. |
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Mulindwa Edward
from Toronto-Canada wrote on 11.November 2003 um 13:12 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 216.154.3.112 (62.67.214.55)
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Ugandans are failing to pick up the gist, if killing and threatening people make the situation better, NRM would be the best government ever existed. But reports from the UN indicate that the Undersecretary for Humanitarian affairs has declared Uganda as the worst humanitarian crisis in the world. We are worse than Iraq. How can that happen when we have killed all opposition? From the Kayiira\'s to the Paul Mugalu\'s to the Tumwebaze\'s to you name it? And today some one out there is still justifying the present government\'s position? We have had this discussion for many years and we are tired, we are tired of the deaths of people, we are tired of NRM\'s promises over and over for peace. NRM has failed Ugandans and it has failed the children in Northern Uganda. And yes the war is about children. There are those of us who know full well how NRM was using UNLA uniforms in the day and kill the adults in a family in Luwero, and come at night to take the children, under the illusion of we will protect you. All those children from Luwero were turned into Killing machines. The term Kadogo was started in our country by NRM non other. Children were armed in Congo again by NRM. So were the children in Rwanda. Let us try to compare notes here. It is grass roots, it is Politicization, it is Chaka muchaka, it is psychological. That is what you get if you let a politically bankrupt government as the Movement to be in power, for it runs on only one stand \"Uganda\'s political problems is North Versus South\" and sadly, many uncritical thinkers bought it. We have a government which has failed and it is about time we put this case to the international community. For we owe it to the children of Northern Uganda if not for every body.
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Mulindwa
from Canada wrote on 11.November 2003 um 02:45 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 216.154.13.102 (62.67.214.55)
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To the international community
It is a very sad day today, for Uganda government has officially refused the involved of a United Nation Force in Northern Uganda. Through Nankabirwa, Uganda government claims that UPDF is a strong force and it will put peace in Northern Uganda. I tend to differ, I think that Uganda Government is scared for if a UN force is set up in Northern Uganda, there will be peace, and it can not stand that. This war has been raging on for almost twenty year, we do not know exactly how many Ugandans who have died, but according to a report from London again today, Uganda\'s situation is worse than Iraq. Ugandans this is not about the strength of UPDF, this is about stopping a catastrophe which has gone awo. And if NRM had any human being feeling, we have passed a point of putting in a third party and UN is better than any one. From day one I have stated, that this war is a creation of NRM to destroy the population in the North, a claim that annoyed many un-critical thinkers. But here we are. The war is against children, for NRM knows full well that if you destroy children the society is gone. Now many of you are asking why destroy North? I will give you the answer, for Northern Uganda happens to be the most fertile land in Uganda, it is the plan of Museveni in his creation of the Tutsi empire to turn the North into a huge mechanized farm, and I will give more details on that after. If United Nation gets involved, that plan will not take place.
I am appealing to all peace loving people to send emails and faxes to all your MPs and governments to force NRM to allow United Nation to be involved in the war in Northern Uganda. Again it is a very sad day in Uganda today.
(Those with access to other forums please repost this posting as wide as possible for that is the only best you ever done to the population in Northern Uganda who have been held as hostages for 20 years by NRM under the guise of Konny.
Em
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Godfrey Ayoo
from Cologne - Germany wrote on 10.November 2003 um 23:57 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 194.8.197.205,195.14.226.47 (62.67.214.55)
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Spy boss backs 3rd term talk
By Alex B. Atuhaire & Mercy Nalugo
Nov 8, 2003
KAMPALA - The director of the External Security Organization (ESO), Mr David Pulkol, has said it is okay for Ugandans to debate the third term.
Speaking at the top of his voice, Pulkol told participants at a workshop code-named \"National Dialogue\" yesterday at Hotel Africana, that there is no law that prohibits people from exercising their rights.
The workshop was organised by the Parliamentary Advocacy Forum (Pafo), a lobby group opposed to the amendment of the Constitution to lift the two five-year term limit on the presidency.
The removal of the term limits is widely seen as a ploy aimed at keeping President Yoweri Museveni in power for life.
Instead, he said, government should follow the Constitution. \"When did it become law to stop someone from talking about life presidency or third term? Which Parliament passed such a law and which district councils passed it?
\"Shame and people ought to be ashamed,\" he said. He said if he was invited for lunch, he wouldn\'t be happy if the appointment was cancelled.
\"If you change goal posts, the onus is on you to explain why,\" Pulkol said.
He also attacked the riot police for spraying students at Makerere University with tear gas.
Last month, riot police raided the university and dispersed students who had gathered to talk about the political climate in the country.
\"What crime did they commit and what law did they break? People are trying to exercise their rights and all you see are these ugly-looking police constables coming to attack them,\" Pulkol said.
He said MPs would have summoned the minister of Internal Affairs and the Inspector General of Police to explain the matter.
In the same breath, he cited several instances when police disbanded MPs\' consultative meetings in their own constituencies.
\"If they cannot speak for their people, who can speak for them?\" he asked.
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Godfrey Ayoo
from Cologne - Germany wrote on 10.November 2003 um 23:51 Uhr: |
IP Adresse: 194.8.197.205,195.14.226.47 (62.67.214.55)
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Good readings for Gwanga and co,
Pulkol Raps Museveni\'s Advisers
New Vision (Kampala)
NEWS
November 10, 2003
Posted to the web November 10, 2003
By Joyce Namutebi
Kampala
The director general of External Security Organisation, David Pulkol (left), has advised President Yoweri Museveni to rid himself of people who shield him from reality.
\"I told the President to offload excess baggage ...those are liabilities... They build a wall around him... they are his good men but to the public they are of no consequence,\" he said.
He was discussing former first deputy premier Eriya Kategaya\'s paper on political transition in Uganda: the stakes for regional integration in East Africa at a national dialogue organised by the Parliamentary Advocacy Forum at Hotel Africana on Friday.
Pulkol called for honesty and uprightness in leadership.
\"If you decide to change the goalpost, the onus is on you to justify it,\" he said, in apparent reference to the President on third term talk.
He said he espoused a country where the leaders were accountable to the citizens.
Prof. Oloka Onyango advocated political pluralism but without missing the lessons of the 1980s.
He urged Museveni\'s confidants to prevail on him against the third term to safeguard the country\'s gains in the last two decades.
Onyango said parliament\'s autonomy and independence should be retained as stipulated in the 1995 constitution.
He said the recent ***inet proposals smirked of dictatorship.
Prof. Frederick Juuko of Makerere University said the proposals were a \"smokescreen for securing a third term.\"
Kenya\'s former army chief and East African MP, Lt. Gen. Adan Abdullahi, said the military should be divorced from politics.
Tanzania\'s Maj. Gen. Herman Lupogo said the the military had a political role, albeit a short one.
He called for a non-partisan professional army. |
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